WXBM – Marty and Linda catch some heat

August 15, 2006

From: Chrissy
Date: August 14, 2006 7:18:53 PM CDT
To: duwayne@inweekly.net
Subject: Breaking News from Prominant Pensacola DJ reference Pace High Student

I think this story might be of interest to you. I would like my last name kept out of the paper, for professional reasons, however I can not imagine Pensacola openly accepting at least one half of the WXBM morning show or the actual station for that matter if these are the views being expressed.
Apparently, homosexuality can be resolved by going to church alone, and single parents are the cause of the homosexual, transvestite community.
I promise it is well worth the read…
I have started with my original email to the station about Linda Lawerence’s comments which have been quoted in the first letter.

August 14, 2006

Dear Marty and Linda,
Good Morning to both of you, I hope this letter finds you well.
I just wanted to let you know, after listening to your show this morning in reference to the Pace High School student, you have lost a long-time listener.

I have listened to your show since the beginning. I have had differing opinions with the content or context sometimes, however nothing has ever infuriated me as much as the comments Linda made this morning between 7:30am and 7:50am.
Linda, your comment was that you think this “child should figure out what makes him want to wear women’s clothing, and then turn that over to God to help him get over it.” This is the exact attitude and viewpoint that will cause hate crimes to be committed against not only this young man, but countless others.

We live in an area of the country that still believes “witch-hunts” are acceptable for such subjects as spirituality or sexual orientation. By the tone of your comments, you essentially gave them permission to attack this young man and others that live the same lifestyle.
I consider myself to be a very spiritual, God-fearing young woman. However, at the same time, I believe in the age old adage, “To each his own.” We live in the Land of the Free, which means that young man has just as much right to wear women’s clothing as an obese man has to wear a Speedo swim suit on the beach. To express to thousands of listeners that there is something morally, ethically, or spiritually wrong with this young man and his train of thought, was irresponsible on your part.

Your radio show is based in the same community as this young man’s home. Hundreds of teenagers, which he has to see at school and many other places, listen to your show each day, as well as their parents. The negative comments made this morning about homosexuality or transvestites, are basically adding fuel to increasingly hot fires of this subject.
The original question posed by both the school board of Santa Rosa county and your show this morning had nothing to do with the man’s sexual orientation, and I believe you failed your listeners miserably by letting the conversation move to that subject.
I cannot claim to have the power to make hundreds of my friends or family members stop listening to your show; however, I can assure you that there will be one less listener from Cantonment.


—– Original Message —-
From: Marty White
To: Chrissy
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 10:28:23 AM
Subject: Re: Former Listener, as of Today

Hey Chrissy…thanks for the holler…lets dont go overboard here tho….you have point in the conversation getting a little off subject…and yes Linda sometimes goes overboard too….as do I…..however, its because of the cross dressing that the bathrooms have become an issue. I did say we do not condone violence and that the situation will be handled by the courts, attys and the school system….we did have alotta calls on the deal and most were on the same line of “i dont want a high school boy in my daughters bathroom”…and “why should we once aqgain roll over and let this sorta thing happen because one person feels the need to go against the rules others in the same school have to go by”.
I hate that you got upset but look at it this way, if you will….we cant make everybody who listens happy each and every day but when i hear from one who is unhappy with something we said, i try to see what is going on.
You have been listening a long time and i dont wanna see you go away over a disagreement.
I’m sure there are many things you and i would see eye to eye on….but i do appreciate your input and will keep it in my thought process the next time we discuss this deal….
i hope nothing happens to the boy other than maybe gettin his head turned around one day…..i find it hard to accept that you dont believe there is something wrong here…whether it be at home or in the way the boy was raised…but you have to admit….a high school boy wearing womens clothes is not the norm nor should it become accepted as such…..
people in santa rosa county are who they are and i dont believe we will change the way somebody thinks….that being said….this deal is most likely far from being over….
i guess we will just have to agree to disagree on this one…and thats ok, too… so feel free to holler anytime….thanks..marty

As a 26 year old woman, born and raised in the bible belt while watching Jerry Springer, I see nothing wrong with this boy being allowed to dress however he wants. I believe that we all have a “Freak Flag” and should be allowed to wave it accordingly. Whether it is cross dressing, or getting plastered at Chan’s Saloon every weekend.Now, honestly, no I don’t believe that he should be handling his business in the girls restroom, because he is still a boy.
I also don’t believe that “God” is going to change his mind anytime soon. Homosexuality is as old as Moses, it’s an open part of society, and no one has a right to make this child feel like less of a person by making him think finding his religion will make him “wise up”.
And you’re right, I do agree with you 80% of the time, but this just happens to be a subject that tugs at my heart. That young man will never have a decent life in this town because of this event. And I am certain you and I both agree on “feeling loved” by your own hometown.
He will never be accepted here, or feel at home right here, in his own front yard.
Young boys look up to you. For a long time, you have been a role model for high school boys in both counties. Linda’s personality is what every young southern woman aspires to emmulate. And for these types of comments to be said and taken at the very height of this emotional rollercoaster, drops the smallest seed of intolerance into their impressionable young minds.
There is a lesson to be learned in this, I just hope it’s not diseased with hatred or cruelty towards human or civil rights.


—– Original Message —-
From: Marty White
To: Chrissy
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 11:22:07 AM
Subject: Re: Former Listener, as of Today

Chrissy…ok….there is a lesson to be learned here and this may not be the only one…but it is one…
to be different is just fine….but when you call attention to yourself and expect others to make concessions for you just because you are different then…you can expect problems
if you are looking for blame…where does the responsibility lie? all of us are different in our own way, but once you stand up and single yourself out and call attention to yourself as this boy did..he has to deal with the consequences….and agree or not, he will have to deal with the consequences …..
kids can be awfully direct and downright mean…no matter what linda nor i might say…
There is a lesson he will learn from this whole deal… sooner or later… and it may not be a nice thing for him to go thru..but it was his choice when he decided to dress so differently…then ask for special treatment…..
you may have learned watching Jerry Springer that this kinda thing is ok….
but you said yourself you grew up here…and you know that his peers are not gonna see it that way…
to each his own and all that….but he opened this can of worms and to function fully in this society as he gets a little older he will be faced with even more choices. how he handles those will determine just how far he goes in this life no matter how he dresses or the bathroom he chooses….
so there you go…once again we agree on some and disagree on some of the rest….tks…mw

Well, I believe we have run this conversation into the ground and has settled nothing because points are being misinterpreted.
First of all, No, I do not want any men or boys in the restroom with my daughter. Nor do I want to think that one day my daughter might grow up to wear men’s clothes and like it. But if she does, I will love her as much in tightie whities, as I would in granny panties.
But I believe my original point has been lost in the mix, so I will clarify.
It’s ok to not agree with homosexuality, that’s your right.
But it is never ok to strip someone of their self worth by making them think there is something wrong with them because of their sexual preference.
A few years ago, there was a young man named Matthew Shepard, he lost his life over intolerance. He was tied to a fence post in Wyoming and brutally beaten because young men and women believed there was something wrong with him for being homosexual.
You and Linda have a responsibility to the gay, straight, or otherwise indifferent listeners of WXBM, your responsibility is to spread words of tolerance and encouragement in our community. Maybe we should go back to the days of old, where, “If you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all.”
You say kids will be kids…honestly, I consider that to be a huge cop out. It takes a village to raise a child. This village is where your comments were broadcast.
If more people spoke of tolerance, America’s children would be less likely to grow up thinking violence would solve things. They might also grow up understanding that society changes, the world changes. People are going to be homosexual from now until eternity, it’s time we quit sticking our heads in the sand and thinking we can make it go away. There is no religion on earth that can “Fix” someone’s sexuality. No matter how hard they try.


—– Original Message —-
From: marty white
To: Chrissy

Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 12:34:29 PM
Subject: Re: The great debate

Hey Chrissy…i’m pretty much done too…
however….just to clarify….i think we do a lot of encouraging in the community but i dont think its our responsibility…its just the way we are…
by the same token, i do not believe its my responsibility to preach tolerance when i believe something is wrong. we have tolerated ourselves to death in this country and in the world too…everybody still fights and those in the minority always manage to advance their agenda ahead of others who either wont take the time or dont have the wherewithall to stand up and say they believe something is wrong and why….i will continue to do that…
i dont believe it takes a village to raise a child…it takes a mother and a father….a heterosexual, preferably married mother and father to raise a child… it wouldnt surprise me to know that this boy is being raised without both his mom and dad…be that as it may….
the village can raise its voice when the village doesnt agree with what is being forced on them….i’m out in the village a lot.
I have always tried to convey what i feel to be the feeling of the community…and listen to what people say on various issues….but i speak my piece as well as does linda….most have liked it enough to hang around, others havent….some leave and come back….
to finish….i still dont want you going somewhere else because you and i dont see eye to eye on this deal….if you werent valued as someone who listens and gives back input, and if i simply didnt care, i wouldnt have spent the time we have spent today discussing the subject…you brought up some good points yourself and i will take them into consideration the next time we talk about the deal on the air….i hope i’ll talk to you in the mornin…have a good one and appreciate the exchange of ideas….marty



9 Responses to “WXBM – Marty and Linda catch some heat”

  1. Anonymous Says:

    Chrissy, the Matthew Shepard story has been exposed as drug users killing another drug user in order to rob him (November 27, 2004 ABC’s 20/20 the New York times also backed this story after they repeatedly reported early on that this was nothing, but a hate crime), so drop that argument please.

  2. PaceMom Says:

    That is a complete lie. I understand why you would post as “anonymous” There was absolutely no drugs in Matthew Shepard’s system nor record of any past use. Give a link if you have proof otherwise. As for Linda & Marty I will never listen to them again for their bigoted remarks.

  3. PaceMom Says:

    The ABC 20/20 program you refer to aired the assertion of the two convicted killers who are now changing their stories six years later. Aaron J. McKinney and Russell A. Henderson, who are serving life sentences, now say that they both were high on methamphetamine when they killed Mr. Shepard in a rage, explaining that their intent was to beat up and rob him. Now that hardly makes a difference. does it?

  4. Anonymous Says:

    I guess that PaceMom is much more telling than anonymous, nevertheles I am not sure why you would request a link if this is a “complete lie.” Anyways, I referenced the story in the post and here is where I got that information from:
    http://www.aim.org/media_monitor/A2331_0_2_0_C/. I am sure you could check this out with 20/20 if need be. I guess my problem is that it seems like people act like these hate crimes happen all of the time, yet they seem only to reference one that happened eight years ago. Also, I do not believe that the New York times is anti-gay, but they recognized Melissa Vergas for her story on 20/20 where she reported this was not a hate crime.

  5. Anonymous Says:

    I am not sure if my last post, posted it doesn’t look like it. But, you must have seen another 20/20 report because what you have reported and what I saw were completely different. And it does make a difference if they beat and robbed him for money or because he was gay. Hey, these two guys were wrong either way, but it was used by pro-gay activist for pro-hate crime legislation and if that was not what this was then it was propaganda. My only problem here is people acting like someone is going to beat this young man up because someone says his cross dressing is wrong.

    Here is the article I read, from Media Monitor by By Cliff Kincaid dated December 22, 2004, taken from http://www.aim.org/media_monitor/A2331_0_2_0_C/

    “You know there must be something happening when the New York Times praises ABC News for running “an intellectually brave episode” of the “20/20” show that has angered the homosexual lobby. That means the Times found it convincing, and so did we. In the November 27 show, “20/20” uncovered the truth about the 1998 murder of Matthew Shepard, widely depicted as a hate crime because he was a homosexual. Almost everything we were told about this murder at the time by ABC, the Times and every other major news organization was false.

    We were told that this University of Wyoming student was murdered simply because he was a homosexual. The truth is that he was the victim of a robbery gone bad by two drug addicts. What’s more, Shepard was also a heavy drug user who was HIV-positive. Not only were the perpetrators of this brutal crime not “homophobes,” but one of them knew Shepherd and was allegedly bisexual. The real story of the Matthew Shepard case, as the prosecutor says on “20/20,” concerns the dangers of methamphetamine. The two killers and Shepard were big meth users.

    Why were the stories about this crime so wrong? The gay rights movement wanted to depict Shepard as an innocent victim of a homophobic society. This played into their demands for legislation to curb so-called “hate crimes.” One of the perpetrators used that to his advantage, arguing when he went on trial that he went into a panic when Shepard tried to proposition him at a bar. His girlfriend made the same claim in the media, including on “20/20.” But now they say it was all a ruse, designed to get him a reduced sentence by suggesting that he wasn’t in control of his faculties when the murder occurred. The ploy failed. Both of those involved in the murder got life in prison.

    ABC and correspondent Elizabeth Vargas are now under heavy fire from the homosexual lobby for dispelling the Shepard myth. But ABC and Vargas ALSO show Shepard to be a very depressed young man, on the verge of suicide, because of his homosexual lifestyle. The “gay rights” lobby doesn’t want to face up to that. Matthew wasn’t “gay” and “proud.” He was profoundly troubled.

    And that is why we probably won’t see ABC or the rest of the media take this story one step further into the issue of how homosexuals can leave their dangerous lifestyle. Dr. Warren Throckmorton of Grove City College has produced a videotape, “I Do Exist!,” on the phenomenon of the ex-homosexuals. The video explains how people fall into the homosexual lifestyle and how they can get out of it. If this kind of message had been available to Matthew Shepard, he might be alive today.

    Instead, as “20/20,” explains, he was involved in a lifestyle that took him to seedy bars and wild parties, running into people like Aaron McKinney and Russell Henderson, who would eventually kill him. Their motive, however, was not hatred of homosexuals but money. They wanted Shepard’s money to buy more meth. In that regard, Rep. Mark Souder recently presided over a House narcotics subcommittee hearing into the growing national problem of methamphetamine abuse. That’s where the media should devote some more of their attention.”

  6. Shelia Says:

    Homosexuality is NOT a lifestyle anymore than heterosexuality is. Did you choose to be heterosexual? No, and homosexuals didn’t choose it either. You either are or you’re not. There is no such thing as an ex-homosexual. There are homosexuals who are celibate just as there are heterosexuals who are celibate, but they are still heterosexuals. If you haven’t had sex with another person in a year, does that make you an ex-heterosexual? Of course not. Just unlucky in love. :o)

  7. Pensacola Pete Says:

    My god I can’t believe what I’m reading. When did this blog become a haven for evolution-bashing gay-hating neo nerds?

    To Anonymous: You showed your true colors when you attacked Matthew Sheppard. You and Fred Phelps go hand in hand on this one, upholding your version of decency by denigrating the memory of a poor murdered kid. Shame on you.

    Hey did we pick up all the leftovers when they closed down Luke McCoy’s blog?

  8. Shelia Says:

    They migrated, I mean slithered over here from Luke’s Lair.

  9. Dude Says:

    Speaking of rights…what about Marty & Linda’s right to free speech? Can’t take hearing a different opinion without freaking out?

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